"But I don't see subscription sites as "commerical" because they (well, PoserWorld at any rate, and I'm sure others, too) don't "cash in" on the profits. Their subscription fees go to bandwidth, not to a tri-level home in the country with a Porsche in the driveway..." OK. This post is so long, I've forgotten who originally posted this statement, but I have a question to bring up in that regard. Just exactly how do you determine who's "cashing in" on the profits and who's not? All the various subscription and non-subscription sites are not going to open their books to the public, so it's just a guess or what they themselves say. Now we can pretty well GUESS that rosity is taking in a good amount of money. And we can GUESS that they are probably making a fairly healthy profit. But we can't KNOW that. We don't KNOW what their operating costs are. There's more to running sites of this scope than bandwidth. I am a merchant here. I know what I make. I also run a website with a store that is built on a similar model to rosity. I can tell you, I don't live in a tri-level house. I don't own a Porsche. I'm not getting rich doing this. In fact, I'm just now getting to the point where I'm covering costs. But even if I were getting rich, is that anyone's business but mine? Why is it that the word commercial seems to be so hated? If it wasn't for commercialism, none of you would have Poser to play with. And while there are many very generous folks in this community who donate an incredible amount of their time to support it and even pay the bandwidth costs of sharing their stuff, some of us work full time at this to bring you these sites and we'd like to be able to survive and pay the people we need to help us do this. I'm not getting into whether or not rosity is right or wrong in doing what they are doing here with the product showcase forum and gallery or even whether or not PWFW should be exempt from the commercial posts rule. I just wanted to know how anyone thinks they could possibly accurately judge who's making a "profit" and who's not.