Rena qoute: "Let's face it, others may not dare say so but I will- it's the best & oldest who've survived successfully in becoming merchants around this place since Jack Krammer brought the plague of commercialism over us (also WITHOUT asking but with YOUR full blessings)!" Rena, First of all, it is Jack KAMMERER... and to inform you, I was NOT the first person to bring commercialism over to the Community. Zygote and BBAY.COM brought commercialized products to the Community LONG before I did. I only brought the Commercialism to Renderosity, and despite how frustrating that is to some, allot of members of the Community have been profiting because of it. Including both you and Steve Shanks. Whether it is for site costs or whatnot, you are still considered COMMERCIALIZED by selling products. You are upset that this web site which used to be an utopia for Poser Members is going down the tubes. GUESS WHAT it IS NOT because me bringing COMMERCIALIZATION to this place... it IS BECAUSE IT IS POORLY MANAGED!! I've made my share of mistakes in regards to this Community in the past, but I will be DAMNED if I take anyone's shit for the way this site is currently ran and the members are treated. Renderotica has it's own store that I brought to it and that place doesn't have the problems this place has... so it isn't the store! Just so that we are clear on that! Jack