I have about all the Poser free stuff ever released, ever, anywhere. Since '98. And about 75% of it, maybe more, is OK for commmercial renders. And honestly, I can't imagine why not? Why put out a freebie that is not to be used for commercial renders? Why limit it? I mean, not allowing reselling, that's obvious. And asking for a credit is prefectly reasonable. But no commercial renders? I don't quite get the logic there. Can someone enlighten me - I must have missed something. I'm not being ironic, I really mean it - tell me the logic. (I'm always on about how this place started with freebies, before there was a marketplace at all, when the only people selling models for Poser was Zygote. This place is supposed to be a community.) :] FishNose