Marque opened this issue on May 03, 2002 ยท 46 posts
Questor posted Sat, 04 May 2002 at 7:39 AM
While I tend to agree with you Ron, you're onto a losing argument. People in the main see "free" as meaning "Do anything you want with it"... Free Speech - say anything you wanteven if it offends people Free Speech - ram your beliefs down another's throat Freedom of Expression - to create anything you want even if it's offensive Free Downloads - Take and do whatever you want regardless Free Society - Provided you live by that societies RULES and LAWS... Oh wait, that last one kinda screws the concept doesn't it. Oh well. :) and so on. Free unfortunately tends to be used to the convenience of the person using the word. Perhaps Freestuff is the wrong word to use now. The poser userbase has grown so much and now includes so many people of different countries and belief structures that they all have their own definition of what free means. So, perhaps these files that people can download without paying the author a dime should be called "Shared Stuff" because the author is sharing with the userbase. Sharing immediately comes with it's own strings already built into the word and should make things a lot easier. I don't restrict my "Shared Files" except for resale/redistribution and only commercially restrict derivative works from movies and literature that require a seperate license from the originator to use. Why? Because frankly I don't mind people making images and trying to sell them. Yes, it is a form of profiteering on the generosity of others and it is not a given right to do this, permission should be sought first unless the author gives this permission in the read me. On that note. I agree with the other people in this thread. It would be nice to see a radio button or something in the freestuff section of this site, similar at least in concept to what LadySilverMage has done at 3DArena. So people can see which files they are allowed to profiteer from, and which are restricted to all but personal use. Not from any sense of greed, but from a sense of reason. Ms_Outlaw states a damn good reason for this. Bandwidth. There are apparently a lot of people who want to use generosity to profit from, so if they can see in advance which files they can do this with they'll only download those files. Thereby saving bandwidth from files they can't use. It won't make any difference for the freestuff leeches, those who download everything just to have it in case they might use it one day, maybe but it might save just enough. Who knows? There are good points made all round here. Free doesn't mean "do what you want with it", it means you don't pay to download it. But it would make major sense to have some indicator in the free area so at a glance a downloader can tell. It saves bandwidth, it prevents people whining because they can't profit on generosity, it saves a bit of bandwidth and in the end everybody is happy. Plus, those who give free files don't have to put up with continual threads complaining about their generosity in sharing. Win win.