Thanks, Ron, for the nice words about my free things. If they were better, I'd probably sell them in the store, but I'm just happy if they fit the bill for someone who might need them to complete a render. Sometimes it's those little insignificant, sundry items that are needed to put a tiny detail in an image to make it just right. I guess the way I feel is, if something is good enough for people to want to use in a commercial render, then why didn't the creator of that object put it up for sale in the first place rather than in free suff? Why give it away if it's something people would be willing to pay for? There wouldn't be anything to quibble about for the creator re: commercial or non-commercial if he/she sold it in the first place. People wouldn't want to use it in a commercial project if it wasn't good enough, anyway. Someone needing it for commercial use would be more than willing to pay for it, if it's of commerical quality. I just wish some of the readme files in the freebies would be a little more polite about it. Most of them are very polite and state it in a nice way, but I've read a few readme's that basically say something like, "You'd better not use this in commerical stuff or I'll be really mad." Not in those exact words, the but sentiment is there. Those are the ones that go into my recycle bin. If they basically don't want you to use the item, then don't put it up for grabs. What's the point, other than to say, "Hey, look what I can make! See how good it is, but don't you dare use it." LOL Oh, well. I'm just happy if someone gets some use out of what I've contributed. I feel flattered when someone e-mails me to say one of my items really helped a project for them. I made a really simple Egyptian collar about three years ago, and an author of children's e-books used it in a story he sells, and he sent me some images from the book to show how it turned out. I was so tickled! I appreciated that someone actually thought it was good enough to actually use. Anyway, just my thoughts. Melanie