Marque we seem to have had this conversation before in another thread, what does worry me though is you seem quite happy to post this to the thousands at Renderosity but never mail me about the problem nor reply to me in the previous thread. There has just been an update and like the message says it gets clogged then because everyone is dloading, and, yes you pay Marque, but its simple if we double the bandwidth we have to double the cost of joining, T1's cost $12000 a year to run, and trust me we add them WHEN EVER we can........Steve