bloodsong, are you talking about mikes chest when you conform an item to him, or are you talkign about the chest of the conforming item? If it is the chest of the conforming item then it is probably due to the fact that you need an actor+1 setup. What I'm talsking about is this. If you clothing item stops at the chest, you have to remember what the children of the chest are. These are the neck, lcollar and rcollar. These body parts should be included in the CR2. The reason behind this is due to the fact that body parts are sometimes affected by thier children. If you look at Mike's chest you will see entries there for these child parts. You can add these parts without having any geometry for them by having the reference listed for the part but leave the reference empty. You will need to include all the dials for this body part in the actor listings but set that actor to hidden 1 so it won't show. Now if you are talking about Mike's chest changing, I have no idea as I haven't seen that happen as yet.