I have an incrediably slow DSL line -- how slow? I never could download PSP 7, even breaking up the DLs--and I think I've had one timeout at PWFW. That's all. Yeah, it takes awhile, I expect that now. But sometimes I can download right away. If you have slow connections, then you budget your time with PWFW. That's all. Maybe one thing gets downloaded at a time. It's tough when the updates are huge like the last one. I don't think I ever got everything from that. But it's only tough on instant gratification. I've downloaded practically the whole site and I joined--when?-- about 4 months ago. Where I have probs is with the freebies-- sometimes I miss them-- sob, I missed the Andalucian dress. I think the decision whether one wants to budget their time, is the important decision to make in whether to continue a subscription to PWFW. And, yeah, it nowhere near as slow as Renderocity showing one picture in the galleries. Emily