I waited to comment here, because I hate to get involved in things like this because I don't know many of you very well yet. i finally decided that unpopular or not, I'd put in a few words. I see a couple of you beat me to it. First off...one of the things I come here for is to gather info on poser stuff from ppl here who are a lot more advanced than myself. And one of those things is info concerning pay sites..good OR bad. I've been meaning to subscribe to PW..just haven't gotten to it. I probably still will. But C'MON gang...it's obvious from the different threads that have come through here that downloading from there is a problem. At least it's not as good as some other sites. Content may be great...but content doesn't matter if you can't get it. The thing that bothered me in this thread was that when things are rated for us here by the group, we can't expect everyone to agree, so it shouldn't get personal. I didn't care for the name-calling. To call Marque a "whiner" because she isn't happy with the service would be the same as calling all the sudden PW-supporter posters a buncha ass-kissers....uncalled for....just agree to disagree. Obviously Marque is having SOME kinda problem. I learned a long time ago that if I thought a paying customer was a "whiner", I just keep that to myself, share it with another employee maybe, and go on. But to say it right out.....can you say unemployment? And now that I'm owner, it's the same way for my guys, they know better. So I hope Marque(one of the few ppl I've actually gotten to know a lil here, and who was really nice to me) can just work it out with PW(who makes some of the neatest stuff around) and everyone can be friends again. Maybe they can extend her time till she gets her downloads, I dunno. But please...allow for varying views...I need 'em to decide where to spend my Poser-bucks....:) Beav