Marque, you have a really destructive streak in you if you start somthing like this AGAIN..... Sure, right after an update, it's slow, (surprise, surprise!) so I wait till the next day (I just D/Led all the new stuff in a few minutes) and then I get on with life. Try it, you'll like it. Steve and Rena - believe me, just about everyone likes PWFW the way it is. High speed lines are NOT the major issue, content is. I think $50 for a whole year is pretty reasonable, that's a LOT of models and stuff. :o] :] FishNose