Jack... That raises a good point.... I mean if you can no longer find the zip file posted anywhere...and the read me file does'nt have any thing saying it can't be freely distributed, or the read me doesn't even exsist...can it not be posted or sent too someone FREELY??? This is a very touchy but murky subject.. Web Sites come and go like rain drops..So go the files with them..but what about all the people who would like to have something you or I have saved??? Is there no way to send it to them?? You and I have been down this road with SADIE and John West..With out you two agreeing on the upload she would be unavailible...There are so many good things that I have seen dissapear in just the 8 months I've been around Poser and Bryce. Seems such a waste..