Anyone who gets 'discouraged' from subscribing to PWFW because of this kind of thread - boy, you are missing out big! THE REAL ISSUE IS: PWFW HAS GREAT STUFF, WORTH EVERY PENNY IT COSTS - regardless of whether Marque or Ron have some sort of complaint or not, real or exaggerated. I've been a member a couple of months now, and enjoying it all the time - except the first few hours after a big release. Suddenly a thousand members attack the lines and want everything NOW. Then I wait a few hours - and download. Simple as that, see? I mean, geez, this is the web, waiting sometimes, that's life on the web. PWFW, as I understand it, consists of 2 people doing what they love, and do it well (and get better and better all the time, I may add), sharing it with memebers for a decent fee - and that's it. That's PWFW. Along with servers and lines and costs and complaints and 'Oh WHEN am I going to get that pink jacket texture I've wanted for 3 DAYS now???' requests...... And being in different parts of the world, and trying to keep it all together - and trying to go on enjoying it - and I bet, wondering occasionally whether it's worth it...... :o] Ron, that stuff about how PWFW is a business, blah blah, give us a break, OK? And Marque, download the next day, OK? And let's got on with what's fun instead - Poser. OK? :] FishNose I get so TIRED of all of this aggravation and aggression, wind down, people!