Nicholas, (sigh) If you don't like this forum then don't come to post your message. This forum is for people who are interested to read and post messages regarding the topic I made. Why should you complain about our forum when you are complaining about how we complain blah blah blah what the hell were you thinking? By the way you are uninvited. Seems to me that you have lack of knowledge about American history. If there was no complaints at all there would be slaves, dictatorships, and business schemes treating us like animals. If people don't complain then how can customers' wish list be heard for Corel to make improvements in Bryce? I like Bryce a lot and it has some valuable which that is why I complain a lot about s single tool that I need to use for my project to succeed. Do me a favor delete your lame message. Waldoo