hmm ... - should I answer to this (esp. point 2 of the origin post) ?? Am I an as... if I sell poses ?? It sounds a little bit like this when I cross-read your posts here Mosca ... Maybe the price of 60$ for my CD (containing 5000 poses, 300 faces, lots of hand-poses, lights etc ...) is not correct - because ... uhm ... you all could do this on your own by just turning this and that wheel in Poser ?? Maybe I should stop giving away free poses - because you all could do this on your own ?? Maybe I should just give up doing working in 3D - I could just download a lot of Royo, Valleyo or any other image or photo ?? Maybe, maybe ... Hmm - let's try another example ...: Ever heard about Linux ?? - Hey, it's free ... why did you bought Windows ?? - you can programm your own OS by just using VI (btw: that's a free-ware text-editor) or Why do people give away so much money for "programming" their websites in HTML - it's all readable and you don't need any programms else than a text-editor to make websites ?? It is absolutely senseless to discuss about prices or things in a marketplace (the real ones as well as the virtual ones). The solution is quiete easy: If you don't like the product - don't buy it !! If it is to expensive - don't buy it !! But calling people lazy if they buy things is something that is just noones right. If I buy a Ferrari noone would call me lazy because I spent so much money in a car - I could reach my target also with a way cheaper car. Oh, well this all has taken me so much time - geeeeeeeeeeeez I could have done a lot poses more in the time answering that post - and btw: I got a lot of money for doing homepages for other people - that's my job - and it is also my job to help people getting a good website. That is what I get paid for and honestly - I never said: "Why don't you just learn HTML and make your website on your own" - that's not what the people want me to say when they give me an order ... Happy posing Schlabber