Sorry to mention, I did try that option as well, deleted every VUE folder, registry enties, defraged disks, so as not to re-install over older deleted file space, installed 4.00 again, then upgraded direct to 4.06, however when attempting to use the right mouse on render options, the new opened panel, would be completly illegible, black characters all over the place, options could not be seen, tried this on win98 SE machine, win 200 pro, and NT, same problem. Will watch the forum, may even try it again at work, thanks again Guitta. Gary