Sorry Ron, I've had to join the hundreds of other people on Renderosity that have requested multiple times an "Ignore Ronknights" button. However satisfying it would be to take you apart and deep fry the remains, a close and respected friend has asked that I don't and I will respect their request. For the simple reason that in your puritanical daydream you are unable to see anything beyond the tip of your nose and your own gripes. So as was said somewhere else today, quit yer griping. Kaibach: The reason admin will not close this thread is that it suits their purposes to see someone like Ron continually insult people that the admin here consider to be competition. This thread will remain here, unlocked, undeleted, untouched because their purpose is being served. Ronky is having his day at the soapbox and is insulting two people, and one in particular, that are highly respected in the communities and this is perfect for them, because if Ronky manages to get the combination right Rena might just pack up and leave, which would be perfect for them - oh dear, memories are short, she doesn't do things like that. Then they'd only have the very last in competition to deal with. RuntimeDNA and DAZ3D. Until of course, Curious Labs open their Poser store, then things will get somewhat entertaining. Eventually the rosity admin will have what they consider to be the Renderosity Utopia, a place where they have the controlling fraction of a large market with absolutely nobody going anywhere except their store to buy stuff. Unfortunately, things don't usually work that way, but it'd be a shame to spoil the surprise by telling them that. :) Kendra: I think the answer to that is simple. They're not part of the worship Ronky congregation. As they have not fallen on their faces at his feet to worship his "support" (note he completely disregards over a thousand other people who support them and also aren't worshipped) they must be very bad people. Just like all the other vendors, freestuff contributors and members here who aren't on the Honky Ronky bandwagon and subscribing to the "Hug a tree today" sermons. The desire for acceptance at any cost can sometimes be rather a strange one as the motivations for some actions are not always clear. Also, unbeknownst to the planet at large, these two enthusiastic contributors to the Poser user base are in fact Bill and Hillary Clinton and must act in accordance with certain accepted principles. Meaning they have to take all the abuse thrown at them with a broad smile and a thank you, later I guess Steve will have to have an intern bend over a desk to chop the end off a cigar. I guess in a twisted way you could say that certain people are giving Steve and Rena a "Lewinsky". LOL Anyway, I'm out of here as I have some things to attend to, including the construction of a Mr. Smiley voodoo doll and the consecration of some long and very sharp needles so I can torment the hateful things.