Wow, this has gotten to be one long thread which mysteriously enough hasn't been moved yet :) While I'm not one to generally join the usual ruckus (too busy munching on cashew nuts and watching the mudslinging) when I see such blatant and insistent attempts at provoking reactions from people I consider friends I have to speak! Marque, I don't know if you're still reading this thread or not, I don't know you, but excuse me if I'm biased concerning this matter as I can recall a time not too far away when Anton Kisiel was made the target of your accusations and complaints to the point where the poor guy had to ask you to stop buying his stuff! Seems to me you're quick to jump the gun at the slightest thing that goes wrong for you when everyone else doesn't see it quite that way. Ronknights, I read other forums here too so please don't go dragging past threads or you'll probably open up a can of worms. Seems to me that you've had your share up to the point where you were asked by another vedor (Dendras) to stop harassing him. As I recall you even made another account to continue attacks in a certain thread. I can't for the life of me see why you've felt you had to make this your own little crusade when you don't have the same problem with the downloads. Anything else could have been taken to the private PWFW forum which is intended for the subscribers. Unlike you though, I won't be posting threads that portray you ... let's say in a bad light only because as an educator I still care to set the good example. I hope any newbies still reading this thread see it for what it really is and not let it stop them from making a free choice of their own whether to join or not based on sample freebies and previews. I'm willing to bet though that they won't regret it :)