Well thank you for excluding us NS users. I was about to go there until now. This is one of my pet peeves because there is NO!!!!! need to format exclusively for one browser type. There are plenty of scripts and codings out there that will allow both ie and ns view sites. If I!!! can design my site to be viewable by all then so can everyone else. Just use WWW Consortium HTML Standands for goodness sakes. Stop pandering to Microsofts' ego by using their exclusive coding. There is NO need for it. GEEZ