heyas; after examinging my conformer cr2s (and messing up a stephanie conformer), i can concur that having body/hip trans settings is a bad thing. the conformers i have made, wherein i never messed with those, all have very tiny trans values. i'll have to fix my tutorial, then. now one other thing i was wondering, kattman.... does your wizard put a slight twist to things? we found out that in some instances, a conformer will twist up crazily at some settings, and to avoid/fix that, we put on an initial twist value of .001 on the conformer. now that is one step that an automated program could do a lot better and faster than hand-editing! :)