ok this is to replace all the little posts I made here. if your having trouble try these Cuirass part 1 http://members.xoom.com/artworx3/Cuirass Top.zip Cuirass part 2 http://members.xoom.com/artworx3/Cuirass Bottom.zip Skant http://members.xoom.com/artworx3/Skant 2.zip Thankyou for the comments :O) it was a great TEAM effort Ikyoto!!! are you ready for that Armor project you were talking about a few weeks ago? wander... thankyou i should know better but wasn't thinking when i zipped them, next time I wont leave a space.:O) And I was reminded about the shields. I have them done but I need to texture them and I dont want to spam the freestuff more than I already have today.