banners must die. well.... that's my comment, and i'm sticking to it! :) btw, i have 800x600 on a 17" monitor, and i dont see any pixelation. hey ron, you can save some vertical space if you turn all those icons in your browser into text instead ;) you can get more vertical space if you put your task bar on the side, too. but, probably not enough to get you into the zone on your page views, here :/