It's obvious some of us disagree as to the meaning of the word "business" here. In my estimation, this is the Poser Forum. That means the Real Business here is the Forum and the Messages, not the commercials or pretty, big pictures or banners. Yes, most of us have gotten used to the necessity of having a banner at the top. But one banner doesn't fill up an entire 15" screen's vertical space. We already have the Marketplace for selling merchandise, which brings revenue into Renderosity. The Forums are here to serve customers and potential customers. **** I'm talking about the "big picture" here. You can save a very small amount of space by hiding the toolbar, and the top of the Internet Explorer screen. That's why I giggle when someone makes those recommendations. Ron