A thicker typeface. But I like the gold version, it shows up better against the black background. What prog do you use. Go my Ulead Cool 3D font prog back on line (comcat.dll was corrupt and wouldn't recognize the plugins) but I've lost all my premade textures because I stupidly reinstall it before I found the problem was a corrupted dll file. I'm working with version 2.5 and it doesn't have all the bevels in 2.0. So I'm thinking of installing 2.0 in a different file and making letters with the other bevels and saving them because I can access and save the bevels from previously saved files.