Hmm, don't know. I don't have any of the patches--I'm like Ghost--waiting for the 'early adapters' to get through all the hitches of the beta versions. I haven't had to group to texture. Normally the textures DO come in with the figure. I think only once did I really have problems. HOWEVER, all that having been said--I STILL twiddle with the textures--but primarily just to 'tweak' them into looking even better--or to use more than one texture kind of 'after the fact'--like I did using Tim's Asian texture but using Diane TG's Nikko eyebrows, etc. I sometimes do the same for clothing--I often make several textures for things or import others and so can change those too. That, however, is just how I do it--not a necessity. P4/B4 has worked quite well for me. Diane B