KeepItFree opened this issue on May 14, 2002 ยท 40 posts
Legume posted Wed, 15 May 2002 at 10:52 AM
"Patriotism is to love your own country Nazism or Antisemitism is to hate somebody else." There was a time when Nazism WAS patriotism, at least in Germany. "Propaganda" is the expression of other guy's patriotism. There are some people who consider crashing planes into the World Trade Center as patriotism. As my old pal Philo says, the difference between Heaven and Hell is which end of the pitchfork you're on. If the Nazis had won WW2, Hitler would be remembered as a conquering hero who defeated the evil puppets of democracy. History is written by the winners. Sure, I'll agree with the above post which states, "the Nazis have harmed alot more people than any pedophile stuff ever did", but then so has America, with its' genocidal policies regarding the Indians who were there before them, and for that matter the Catholic Church, with it's own genocidal policies regarding Jews, pagans, and other assorted "sinners". I'm not defending Liftan here...in fact, if I told you what I really think of him, I'd probably be banned for personal attacks...HEINOUS personal attacks. Given the opportunity, I'd laugh as he boiled in his own diarrhea. But to suggest banning ANY political expression in art, however unpopular, is an affront to the creative process itself. There is a tendency among many members here who see one thing censored, and then, instead of saying, "That shouldn't be censored", say instead, "Well, if you censor THAT, you should censor THIS to be fair". The answer to censorship isn't MORE censorship. This is supposed to be a community for artists. And any artist who demands more stringent restrictions on what can be posted here is doing more ill to this community that a hundred pictures of "propaganda".