wtf? how could you possibly think of curious labs as a 'greedy it company'? theyre just a small group of folks, making a living like you or i. id be interested to see sales figures for poser4 and propack - with the rampant spread of warez i seriously doubt that theyre as great as many people think. im willing to bet that over half the people here at renderosity right now are using a warez version of at least one of their primary graphics programs. i dont consider curious labs 'greedy' at all. their pricing has always been very competitive, and they have had several awesome discounts and promotions. steve cooper and other members of the staff are constantly in here in the forums answering people's questions and leaving poser tips. i wish i could say the same for other companies. you want a 'greedy it company'? look at corel. have you ever seen one of their representatives at rosity? no, were 'beneath' them. theyre also the reason for the lack of direct poser import support in the previous two versions of bryce.