Greedy???!!??? ::whoop with laughter:: I've had the pleasure of a visit to their Intergalactic Headquarters. Admittedly, the etched mithrillium doors guarding the vault where the programmers are chained to their computers are impressive, as was the size of the parking lot (being repaved to cover the latest crop of bodies... I couldn't believe that so many warez pirates fail to buy asphalt insurance). However, the actual office space is unassuming. The hall is lined not with Miro's or Hockney's, but with Poser art done by members of this community. They are proud of what we do with the tools they make. US products do cost more overseas, but that is due to exchange rates and customs duties, not to the base price of the software. For examples of greed you will have to go to Maya, Max, and other overpriced products. Carolly