Little_Dragon, I know quite well that dragons are fire-proof. That is why I specifically mentioned the flamethrowers. If I had said something about the guys with sacks full of itching powder or the stern-hearted women with pointy swords it might have been considered an attack upon a fellow member. ;^) To answer Pablo's question, I have Vicky2 and will most likely get this low-res version just to be able to fully populate a scene without a month-long render time. I did get notice of a $5 coupon to be offered, but not a coupon yet. It will take a while to email all of us anyway. Carolly