Thanks for the info Jennifer. My original intention was just speculation on a possible release date for Poser 5. I didn't really mean to start a debate about the book. The only how-to book I've ever purchased was the Real World Bryce 4 book and I thought it was quite good. I do remember that e-on software didn't give notice of Vue 4 till just a few weeks before it shipped. Same with Bryce 5 too, I think. So we may not even know it's coming till it's on us. Fingers crossed for a release this year.