BlackHearted & anybody else who replied to my message you have my full apologies for the reply :/ I have just read the message again & I don't know what triggered my response,I'd buy you that beer if I was near (I suspect your in america , Beats me) & FishNose no you havent instigated anything (Jeez no wonder I got no money for upgrades wit all the people I gotta make up to) :) yes I'm easyly provoked,Once again I don't know how to sum up Offer my apologies but thank you all for putting me right & hope you have a good future & never have to encounter somebody like me again heh heh take care all , Peace! Yeah I just grabbed Vic 1 & Daz has my eternal blessings & I wish him & his company also a great & prosperous future the model has great potential & as soon as I'm back in employment (& finished paying for all your rounds of beer) I would certainly consider buying the full package as my Vicki is a little um exposed at the moment , I just grabbed a couple of Phil C's clothing items from free stuff to play wit for the time being (Another person I'd like to thank) Ok there are many I'd like to thank but the list would never end so for the last time , To all Renderers & members staff involved anyway in the running of Renderosity I'll raise a pint in your direction & can only hope you'll be around for a while to come