Hi CrystalWizard, I do agree about the need for a different way of getting members' input about such things. I'll start a discussion about it among the mods. Don't expect to see any changes in this dept. in the near future, though, OK? The list for the future new programmer is verrrrrrrry long, as I know you know. ;-) And, just my bringing this up with the mods and admins still doesn't guarantee that it will get on the list, of course.