And don't get me wrong, Hiram. I don't want my remarks to seem, hmmmmm, overly strong. I am just playing the devil's advocate. As to the "wrong gallery", I reached back to the depths of my memory and all I could recall were some comments made by those who thought Poser renderings shouldn't be tainted by 2D postwork. I've only been to the Member's Gallery once... all I saw there (mostly) were incredibly pretty female members Hehe, I posted in the right area this time.