It certainly requires much more than 3.0. I used to render scenes with 3-4 characters (each with 20+ extra morph targets loaded), + scenery+ props. Typically I would have VM off and perhaps 60-90 MB allocated to P3. I do like P4-but OUCH on memory! With P4 I can't even imagine how much RAM that would take-actually, perhaps I ought try rendering one of my P3 PZ3's in P3 AND P4 and find out. Eric Walters