~L~ was just showing the steps to use vue to model a human shape. the software thread had comment saying it was hard to do so. but with a basic shape that covers the majority of the body, it isn't hard to use vue to model a person. "terrain generators" are actually some of the best modelling programs available. ok, since I'm busy all day tomorrow, sunday I'll toss a human figure together in vue and put it up as a vue character in free stuff. ~G~