thomllama ok.. you have the link you can click on here... but when you just go to the tut's area... it's not there.... not in the raydream/carrara folder? what's up with that? I only planned for the tutorial to stick around for about a month and then replace it with another one. The tutorial wouldn't die, it would go and live on the Carrara CD. I don't have a whole lot of space here at Rosity to host much stuff so I'm in rotation but the CD will house all this stuff forever. one other thing.... where can i get the plug in's in your tut? I got carrara from Metacreations and just downloaded the update when Eovia took it over. Are they downloadable?? Yes they are downloadable. They're part of the smart pack that came with the Metacreations version of C studio. Digital Carvers Guild had made these plug-ins originally and you could and still can get them. DCG has several plug-ins that are excellent and are also what I consider required for several kinds of things. They're sponsoring the current contest. Paul, The lamp sounds like a slam dunk. Believe it or not, I was also thinking about a butterfly (YES ANOTHER BUG!!!!!!!!!). Lamp it is. I need to get out of the bug business for a little while. I do need a butterfly for a project I'm chewing on and I'll just put that one up the next time. How about that? -Kix

-Kix