Airflame, the number of votes are approx 50 each time for the last two challenges. Am not sure what you mean by public scrutiny. Any renderosity member can vote here I guess, as long as they visit/frequent this forum. But going a little further on your thought, I guess we could post a message in the challenge forum as well. Also both last and this time there has been suggestions towards having a newbie and an experienced catagory. Given the universality of this month's challenge, do we try it out this time? We leave it to participants as to whether they want to post it as newbie or experienced. What say you folks?