Thanks! Please don't get me wrong...I wasn't trying to say that postwork is bad. I'm a firm believer in using whatever tools you have (postwork or otherwise) to express your vision the way you want it expressed. I'm very happy with this image, its just that I tried very hard to get the fire out of Vue and wasn't able to...its very frustrating, you know what I mean? I know it can be done because look at all the people that just did it! I think I must have done something wrong with the spheres for their outlines to be visible in the render, or I shouldn't be using spheres in the first place... scifiguy's head takes a couple of Exorcists spins AAAARRRRRGH! :)