Hi B, Oh!...lion!? May be I give it a try to confirm if this is a bug by trying to do the same thing. What you have done sounded like what I did for the "Hungry Bass". The Bass was ungrouped and regrouped into two seperate group...one the fin set (to allow for transparency effect) and the rest of the seperate element of the fish as a whole. Material applied were the same. My earlier trial on Headhunter issue was that I uses primitive. anyway, I'll try and see what comes off with the lion thing, but I need a little more time. I'll post back here. No buddy, me ain't French, I am Chinese but not that those of the China, Homgkee, Vietnamese or Thai :) Qu'au sujet de vous, amicain? :o) Bill