Jim, and Tmech, Yes Winblows is a pain, but there are ways to whip it ito shape, and make it do what you want. As far as the DIR command from the old DOS days, you still can do this albeit very easily in Win95/98. Search for a utility on the web named Powertoys, or Command Prompt here. I have been using it since 95 came out, and it works great. What it does is this: Open explorer, and right click on any dir name. A menu choice is added to the existing ones called COMMAND PROMPT HERE. It will then open a DOS window in THAT directory. You can then use the old DOS command from there if you need DIR > myfiles.txt and get a listing of all the files in the directory your in. Hate to type techospeak here, but thought it might help. -Regards Mr.Bill