Ron A few of my friends and I are taking the LVS class right now. IT IS VERY BASIC...but, if you are self-taught like we are, it is very worthwhile. (especially priced at 20.00!...with no book purchase required) The instructor is great and response time to our posts is amazing. Actually, most people in the class are pretty experienced with Poser, so you can also pick up tips from them. It is also a small class for an online one. I have taken a number of LVS classes and have been very pleased with most of them. IM me if you would like the link to my LVS Poser homework site to give you an idea of what it is like. BTW, regarding educational discounts: "Software Discounts: Current LVS students can buy their favorite programs, at a student discount! Note: Verification from our office is required in order to purchase products from these academic resellers. Please read the information for the reseller you are interested in buying from and follow the instructions. (Unfortunately, Microsoft and Adobe products are excluded from this offer.)" Diane