OOOOOW! MY BROTHER JUST SLAMMED MY OTHER HAND IN THE DOOR! am I just lucky today or what? Quikp51: the problem with that is you wouldn't be allowed to distribute the models I guess with objaction mover you could give them out, but I don't think enough people would have turok and the ability to convert them to make that an option SewerRat (who thinks he'll avoid doors of all kinds for the rest of the night)