Why thank you, Ron. I think you may have explained why my poser renders look so bad...I had been saving them as a .jpg. I still prefer to render in bryce, though. I had bryce for ages before i got poser 4. i used to put my poser 1 guys into it, or, make them elaborate backgrounds. to be honest...i had so much fun with that poser 1 for so long. importing into bryce isn't so bad....once you learn how to use leo. mostly, i put a copy of all my poser materials for a given render into their own folder. then, i open bryce...import them all at once and save. that makes texturing and transmapping poserfolk a whole lot easier.