You're welcome Amulet (pretty nick) You and I seem to feel very much the same about fractals. Mystical, magical, wonderful and illusive :) Sometimes I almost think that "how good" (pleasing) a fractal comes out (based on hunt and click method) is determined as much from mood and karma as anything else!! I know that in order for me to notice and view "living patterns" I have to be in certain frames of mind. So, I guess needing that mind set for fractals isnt' really a surprise!