heyas; you can always try p4 figures in p3. depending on what the p4 figure has in it, it may or may not work fine in p3. some things that don't work in p3 are -- more than 99 morphs on one part transparency and/or reflection maps (but the model should still work okay) figures that use multiple maps on different materials (although i'm not sure about this one). i know over on poserforum.net that english bob actually got victoria to work in p3, but you might want to check out the details of things like that before you plunk down any money on stuff advertised as p4 only. :) oh, also before you go poking around with 'this file has a higher version number than expected,' you should backup the main files in your poser base directory. especially that poser.rsr. you can write-protect that one, as well. it gets clobbered a lot.