ed I got both messages from Renderotica and from Renderosity both in html. The one from Renderotica had the html for the top and sidebars, and the adult banner. The one from Renderosity had the html for the top and one of the normal Renderosity banners on it. I like the templates but maybe next time you should send either only text or send emails out without the banners.. maybe those who got the adult banners also got the renderotica email as well? Storm