Thanks diane for sticking around and helping to aid others in this. You ARE a sweetheart. Thanks eshal for your understanding. It is greatly appreciated. Martin C. i do apologize for the confusion. We did speak of this awhile back. perhaps a second more recent one to let everyone know would have been more advisable. Sorry. Anthony, that is very weird. Everyone, we sent out two text letters. one for the members here, and another for those who visit our sister site. It was a simple concensus taking project. Nothing more. No ulterior motives or threat to visit us or die BS. Those of you who know us, know that is not our style. What is most horrible, is that somehow, an unknown amount recieved html and banner ads WITH the sent text. That is screwed up and we are working to find out WHY so that it will not happen again. Again, i sincerely apologize for this!!!! :( ed