Thanks for all your input.. i dont feel insaulted by any of it. making this pic was not a labor of love.. more just messing around.. the pixalition in the back ground is from the scan and the jpg compression (that it went through at least twice) and thanks for your kindness melanie.. i started with poser 2 also.. but i soon gave up on 3D characters.. but i came back with the poser 4 release... i wouldnt say its bad.. but yea, i know not a great peice of art.. it was meant to be more like a vacation photo. thanks for all the input and bashing anyways.. i hope everyone can benifit from the critisim.. i'll have to post some of my better work sometime so you all know i'm no slouch!