Rayraz - 2D plane/face+Bump Map : Oh, absolutely, that is THE best way to do leaves. BUT...if your scene calls just for one leaf, or a handful, close-up, the leaf terrain thing works great, to add just that little more "3D" to your pic, that's all. I use the same terrain technique to make all sorts of terrain models that will "fit" my textures, like this key thing I did some time ago. (technically its a Symmetrical Lattice) *Some GREAT tips/tricks being given in here...;o) AgentSmith

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