I guess that you got me guys, yes Nosfiratu this is the tech support thread you think it is, and the hard drive is still accessing after the "hang", and smerc I wasn't waiting long enough, it's taking 50 seconds to load Vicky 2.0. I checked my memory usage & I'm using 549.3MB to load a Vicky 2.0. Guess it's time for au upgrade. By the way Nosfiratu, re-reading the title of my post it occurs to me that I seem to be critisizing your company, that was'nt the intention, I apologise for any offence I may have caused