idolitry, poser 4.03 and pro pack, a p3 at 600 mhz with only 384mb ram, takes a bit but I can load vicky2..actually can load a cr2 of over 30 mb, just takes about 40 seconds. we ( Stormrage and I ) have a couple of cr2's that hit close to 50 mb. ~g~ it hurts trying to do anything, but once done it's a great character.